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      titicostel's comment isn't racist, it's just immature. it's the 21st century, we live in a multicultural world and the reality is that when someone gets a german citizenship they become, in fact, german. if it wasn't so, kalinikos kreanga couldn't play for greece as he is actually from romania. would you call greece cheaters for letting kreanga play for them for all those years?

      i understand some people have this idealistic idea that you should play for the country that you learned to play in, but in the 21st century such an idea has nothing to do with reality.

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      How is called that thing Timo wears on his head?

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      What an ending! Timo is the king of comebacks and king of blowing leads... GG Freitas. Gonna be tough for Portugal now, but Tiago was in very good shape yesterday

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      Quote Originally Posted by JesperStef View Post
      7 year since she became German citizen, actually! Maybe you should check out wikipedia as well - if you care about the facts?

      https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Ying

      https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shan_Xiaona

      Shan represented China, Singapore, now Germany. What's next? This is not a sporting representation, it is a deception paid.

      Quote Originally Posted by izra View Post
      titicostel's comment isn't racist, it's just immature. it's the 21st century, we live in a multicultural world and the reality is that when someone gets a german citizenship they become, in fact, german. if it wasn't so, kalinikos kreanga couldn't play for greece as he is actually from romania. would you call greece cheaters for letting kreanga play for them for all those years?

      i understand some people have this idealistic idea that you should play for the country that you learned to play in, but in the 21st century such an idea has nothing to do with reality.
      There is nothing wrong with wanting to live in another country, but when another country searches for and pays for sports, it is not right. The athlete does not play for that country, he's playing for money. For money he can play at any club in the world, he's professional and ok, but when a country pays to be represented by valuable athletes from another country, it's called scam.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Cornel View Post
      How is called that thing Timo wears on his head?

      It's called a headband :-)

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      Germany are the 2017 European Champions with a 3-0 victory over Portugal!


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      Final day results:

      Men's Team:

      Final:

      Germany 3:0 Portugal
      1) Timo Boll 3:2 Marcos Freitas (9:11, 11:7, 13:15, 11:5, 12:10)
      2) Dimitrij Ovtcharov 3:0 Tiago Apolonia (11:6, 11:7, 11:9)
      3) Patrick Franziska 3:1 Joao Monteiro (10:12, 11:6, 11:9, 11:5)


      Women's Team:

      Final:

      Romania 3:2 Germany
      1) Elizabeta Samara 3:2 Han Ying (9:11, 12:10, 9:11, 11:8, 11:7)
      2) Daniela Monteiro Dodean 0:3 Shan Xiaona (6:11, 6:11, 7:11)
      3) Bernadette Szocs 3:1 Nina Mittelham (11:5, 11:5, 6:11, 11:6)
      4) Elizabeta Samara 1:3 Shan Xiaona (8:11, 9:11, 17:15, 3:11)
      5) Daniela Monteiro Dodean 3:1 Han Ying (11:4, 11:8, 4:11, 12:10)

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      Quote Originally Posted by TableTennisDaily View Post
      Germany are the 2017 European Champions with a 3-0 victory over Portugal!

      The Boll match was the key. It is hard work to win the final after losing the first match and tiago does not have a great record against dima anyways.. well played germany. Portugal did well to reach the finals, their victory against France in the semis was quite impressive.
      I had a feeling that the final might go to 4 or 5 matches.. wasnt to be. Well played Timo and dima both.


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      17,Sep 2017: Germany vs Portugal (Mens Team Final)

      Match 1: Timo Boll vs Marcos Freitas



      Match 2: Dimitrij Ovtcharov vs Tiago Apolonia



      Match 3: Patrick Franziska vs Joao Monteiro

      Last edited by TTLondon2012; 4 Days Ago at 01:23 PM.

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      The Boll-Freitas match was amazing. Freitas being unable to convert one of those match points changed the whole match. His play in general was inspiring and it was good to see him bring out the best of Timo Boll.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TT_Rogue View Post
      Oh i didnt noticed that i wrote something about how they are looking like.. interesting. You're just feeling offended now because you are a forgeiner living in germany yourself and feel yourself on a moral high ground.
      Oh, we have a wise guy right here, who just can´t stop presenting his small mindedness to the forum.
      Look Dude, once more you´re assumptions are completely wrong. I´m a german, just like my father was and yo can kiss my big black azz!!


      Quote Originally Posted by TT_Rogue View Post
      And btw i think im not living far from you, you want to meet and call me racist in person again? Than we can have an intesive discussion about this. You are the racist here. Because that bullsh!t what you are writing here is a sterotype.
      Do you really think i´m afraid of speaking the truth to your face? Dude, i´ve been growing up here. So do you think this is the first time i´m confronted with racial remarks?

      I actually didn´t want to escalate this any further, so just pm me your address or any other place we can meet. Like Hornau Tournament since i don´t want to diss you on your home soil and we can continue there without bothering others!

      Quote Originally Posted by TT_Rogue View Post
      You are not seeing that their probably 20 years long table tennis education is not disappearing just because they move to germany and it is also not disappearing that their extreme domination is destroying the sport, small minded fool. YOU just want to feel offended that's all.
      Instead of seeing the positive aspects of this you are focussing on the negative. Good luck with that then! And trying to turn my words around won´t help you at all. You´ve proven your small mindedness already plenty of times.
      It´s nobody´s fault but you own if you refuse to see the bigger picture here!


      Quote Originally Posted by TT_Rogue View Post
      ...And now watch the game and shut up.
      Thanks for your kind advice. So you still seem to think that a Whitie Whiteman like you has got any right to tell me what to do?? Better smell the coffee! That time is over, dude.
      But in fact i DID watch the finals while i was practicing, with my spanish, chinese, german and japanese friends. So go eat a bag of d*cks, smartazz....
      *Lulz*
      Quote Originally Posted by TT_Rogue View Post
      Edit: And yes exactly following my logic as you say also for european professionals there should be a restriction to play in the national teams of USA, New Zealand, Australia, and all other (American) countries, because the people there can not compete with them. I didnt say anything about that i shouldnt be allowed at all but there has to be a restriction
      Congrats! Once again you´ve proven your small mindedness!
      You are so ridiculous. See, guys like you are the reason why Germans are hated so much that even polish and austrian people (our neighbours) rather root for any other country that plays against us Germans!

      So, anyhow. no need to extend this here on this thread, and on this forum any longer! Just send me pm and I´m sure we can settle this!

      Quote Originally Posted by titicostel View Post
      It is not about racism is about cheating. Germany pays valuble old woman players to win for Germany.
      Why do not they bring youth girls to train them and then play for them?
      Such a stupid thing to say!
      Did you actually see the matches??
      What about Wan Yuan?? What about Qiu Dang und Qiu Liang?? What about Kay Stumper?? What about Jannik Xu??

      Do you now want to blame their parents that they didn´t park their children in front of the XBox or Playstation all the time???

      Do you actually see the ridiculousness of your post and how little your racist peabrain is informed?

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      Quote Originally Posted by TT_Rogue View Post
      Oh i didnt noticed that i wrote something about how they are looking like.. interesting. You're just feeling offended now because you are a forgeiner living in germany yourself and feel yourself on a moral high ground. And btw i think im not living far from you, you want to meet and call me racist in person again? Than we can have an intesive discussion about this. You are the racist here. Because that bullsh!t what you are writing here is a sterotype. You are not seeing that their probably 20 years long table tennis education is not disappearing just because they move to germany and it is also not disappearing that their extreme domination is destroying the sport, small minded fool. YOU just want to feel offended that's all. And now watch the game and shut up.
      Edit: And yes exactly following my logic as you say also for european professionals there should be a restriction to play in the national teams of USA, New Zealand, Australia, and all other (American) countries, because the people there can not compete with them. I didnt say anything about that i shouldnt be allowed at all but there has to be a restriction
      As I read your and Suga´s posts, it made me laugh
      Still I agree with a lot of what you both said

      As I see it - Its not chinese that ruin the sport with being so freaking good at it..
      Its us ruining it, by not being as good as they are.
      Second - yes, I too hate watching chinese women and sometimes men (Wang Xi, Bai He, Wang Yang, Wang Zenqi, Shen Yanfei, He Zhi Wen, Wu Jiaduo, Han Ying ... I could continue..) represent european countries.. I would kick their asses!
      And not because of some racist thoughts. It is because we are europeans and so european people should play in European Championships. When someone grows up in China, trains there, becomes good there, but not good enough to play in the A-team.. - is that a reason to play and represent another country?
      I mean - it is ok to play for an European club - as it is in many other sports, well, fair enough. But - to represent the country?
      I mean - how many of them speak the language of the country? Okay, as Slovakian I know Wang Yang and Thomas Keinath do not know a single (not rude) word in Slovak. Bai speaks fluently.
      I am so happy that Romania won the championships!
      And it is only because we do have actually European champions, not chinese.
      Suga - you are just refusing to accept that they are actually chinese!
      What do you think - if they would get invitation to play for A team in China - would they refuse?
      Probably answer for that would tell you howmuch German they are..

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      Michal, +1 for speaking very clearly and not pathetic.
      Maybe i do refuse to accept that, but let me explain to you why.

      I must admit you do have a point there, but i think we need to differentiate between two or more differences of reasons why people leave their country and get a new nationality.

      Talking about tt-mercenaries that want to play internationally regardless of which country they play for and want to change their nationalities like other people change their underwear aren't actually what anybody would want to happen,
      but even those ones might have their very good reasons, but i'll get back to this in a minute.
      But actually i don't see that happen a lot, so i would rather call these the exceptions.
      What i do see though is that some people left their country and choose/chose another country to live in.
      They live in those countries, work there, make the players of those countries become better players, some even raise their children in that country and then they become citizens and also play for that country, pay there taxes there, and after a while some will get offered a passport of that country after some time. I can't see anything wrong with that, as long as they don't want to change every couple of years.
      Just following the law: if they own a passport of that country, do you think it's somehow fair that they don't have the full citizen rights as any other citizen?
      Besides: remember! we're talking about tabletennis here, not football (soccer) where players earn up to 220,000,000$ just for changing their club!
      In fact most leagues don't pay so much, that players would be able to live like millionaires from their income in the leagues, so they are also depending a bit on playing international tournaments like the world tour.

      Now one question (let's hope this won't happen): but if Ma Long and Xu Xin (now here's the link to the part where people might have very good reasons to leave their countries) would want to leave China and ask to come to your country to live there and train the players and so on, would you deny the slovakian citizenship if they wanted to have it and you would be the one that has to decide???

      C'mon, i think we all know the answer to this question already.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Suga D View Post
      Now one question (let's hope this won't happen): but if Ma Long and Xu Xin (now here's the link to the part where people might have very good reasons to leave their countries) would want to leave China and ask to come to your country to live there and train the players and so on, would you deny the slovakian citizenship if they wanted to have it and you would be the one that has to decide???

      C'mon, i think we all know the answer to this question already.
      I would buy them flowers, lol

      (For LSW I would buy a new bed with recommendation to test it ha! )

      Anyways - I would still hate to see them to represent Slovakia in the international events.
      Somehow - I just want to see our guys to represent.
      I would love them (ML, XX) to train our kids, but to represent...nope..

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      That wasn't all i wrote, but okay, let's go from here...

      Wow.

      Stubbornness in full effect.
      So you are the one responsible for ML and XX not coming to your country amd playing.
      You would really deny a given Team gold medal in international events??
      Better be able to explain that to the TT-Fans in your country. (hypothetically)
      Hahahaaa

      Well, so Keini got lucky since it's not you who has to decide this...

      Anyhow following the example i've given:
      You would have to offer them something in exchange, just practicing with kids alone wouldn't convince them coming to your country.
      Like everything in life, this is not a one way street!
      follow the given laws and try to create a win-win situation everyone could agree on....

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      Quote Originally Posted by TT_Rogue View Post
      All Chinese coaches, all chinese players... but wearing the colors of germany and competing in the EUROPEAN championship. Is this carneval cup or what? This is fcking BS and shouldnt be allowed.
      Quote Originally Posted by titicostel View Post
      Germany is the bigeest cheares in women teble tennis. They pay chinese women players to win for them. Shame !
      I guess you two would then be totally down with dropping Dima (or should I say Дмитро Овчаров) from GNT, right? Or maybe he's cool, since he's not Chinese?
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      How is called that thing Timo wears on his head?
      I think it's also called a bandana.
      Quote Originally Posted by Michal_Z View Post
      When someone grows up in China, trains there, becomes good there, but not good enough to play in the A-team.. - is that a reason to play and represent another country?
      No, they should stay forever in the basement, is that what you're saying? I'm sure not.
      Quote Originally Posted by Michal_Z View Post
      I mean - how many of them speak the language of the country?
      I don't know, you tell me.



      Quote Originally Posted by TT_Rogue View Post
      I didnt say anything about that i shouldnt be allowed at all but there has to be a restriction
      There actually is, check out point 4.1.3 Eligibility.

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